Thursday, August 4, 2011

Suicide - Interview With An Angel Revisited - Part 1

This is a discourse about the subject of suicide taken directly from the book, Interview With An Angel by Steven J. Thayer and Linda Sue Nathanson.  It is the format of a question and answer session that was recorded and later put into book form.  Perhaps, as you read this you own fear kicks in to keep you from reading on or you may be thinking, "What kind of inspiration is this, a discourse on suicide?"  Bear with me.  It is necessary to look honesty at ourselves and our world and accept it as it is and view the darkness, the irresponsibility, the lack of self-reliance (Self or Soul Reliance) before we come unto the other side of our fears and live from a place of honesty and strength or what some call, love.  Life can be viewed as a series of choices and what we choose is simply, fear or love or ego or Soul and God as our director. 

Suicide - Interview With An Angel

Linda:  Could you share with us an example of the karmic result of suicide?

Ariel:    We regrettably cannot give you an example or simple formula that you seek. This experience, this phenomenon that you know as suicide in which an individual, a soul, feels trapped in what we label, hell with no escape, no possibility of exit, is perhaps one of the saddist experiences of the human condition.  It, along with this phenomenon you so easily label as war, is the most difficult from this angelic realm of perception.

The pain, the suffering that we see inside the consciousnes of one who quite ironically so fears death that he takes his own life to avoid his fear, is very, very difficult to witness.  It is extremely difficult to be inpotent in helping, supporting or preventing a person intent on suicide.  For the very consciousness of the one who is so lost, so separate, so isolated, so trapped inside his own fear as to consider suicide is unreachable.  There is no connection, no opening through which we can touch his life.

The karmic consequences of suicide, the future experience as well as the journey from the ending of metabolic life away from the physical body toward the unity, is indescribably complex and cannot be modeled in a way that you would understand.  There is no linear or pre-ordained way that you can predict what will transpire, for the process of projecting the karmic consequence of any act from one lifetime to the next is highly individual.  Each soul's journey is absolutely unique and distinct, and the overall dynamic process that you know as life, so complex and ever moving and changing, is unpredictable in a sense that cannot be fathomed by the human mind.

Linda:   Are there words that a fellow human could share with someone contemplating suicide?

Ariel:     A person contemplating suicide is in a state of mind, a state of consciousness that is so desperate and so trapped that he is difficult, at best, to reach by those in this realm or in your realm.  The mind's very isolation, it's very separateness, it's very self feeding state of fear causes the person who is experiencing it to reject help, support or guidance from others.  An added difficulty is that seeing and experiencing someone who is so troubled, who is so on the verge of despair, is very difficult for others to witness, for it taps into their own primal level of separateness and exacerbates their own level of fear.

The ego's goal is to reassure itself that it is indeed separate.  In the case of a person contemplating suicide, the despair, the degree of separateness and the experience of the depths of hell created by the ego have grown without bound.  The ego has succeeded in creating pain, struggle, confusion and fear.  It has reached a point of utter collapse.

Just as we are ineffectual in breaking into the mind that is so totally closed, you too may be ineffectual in breaking through.  However, as the ego becomes overwhemingly lost, the possibility exists in that moment, if the consciousness can just let it in, of opening up through prayer and petition, through beseeching of divinity, of unity of God, for grace.  At that moment, the most powerful of mystical unions and shifts can take place.  Prayer and the opening to this realm is the one true solution to the problem--not the prayer of simply reciting rhetoric or going through routines or mindlessly chanting, but earnest, heartfelt prayer petitioning for help.

The moment in which the separate self feels the height of it's separateness and it's fear is ironically when it is most available to meet the divine directly.  For in that moment when the entire manificent house of cards, the ego has created--which is now so ominous and so overwheming that death is the only escape--is ready to collapse, the ego could move aside with such force that overwheming grace would fill the individual.

In that moment we could literally infuse the love and the magnitude of our realm into the very heart of this person near suicide and in that moment, completely heal all of his fear.  The challenge is to find the mechanism, the way, the words, the support, the encouragement that will allow that final collapse and that final reaching out to take place.  For unless a human consciousness reaches to the divine, as in prayer, the wall of fear cannot be penetrated.


JediTheOne said...


Let me try to expalin what ANGELS really are....

Angles Are Angels!

Sacred Geometry of the Great Architect of the Universe.

It should be noted that the word English, literally means, Angel-man. The word ANGEL is, in turn, derived from the word ANGLE. This is an extremely strong point to realize, as the whole power of the hypnotic trance working through the illusory body of humanity is based on the sacred geometry and the angles, or angels used, to develop the religious and scientific 3 dimensional space we exist in. There is actually no such thing as a spirit entity or an angel. The spirits that do appear to people from time to time, are only illusions, even as we, the physical person, are simply illusions. These illusions are actually there in a fake 3D sense, but they’re not spirit entities, other than that they’re illusory THOUGHT PATTERNS creating an IMAGE. They’re just hypnotic based manipulations of light, luciferian thought forms. There are only subliminal hypnotic suggestions, combined with geometric based formulas, incantations, chants, hymns, meditations, etc. Through this exercise, what is conjured up, is the illusion of a spirit, or magic. This is the basis of kabbalism, the Tree of Life, or, in more clear terms, HYPNOTIC MIND CONTROL.

The atom symbol is so completely symmetrical and geometric in its construction, that everything as pertaining to 3D manipulation, has to include, and cannot appear as 3 dimensional, unless it portrays geometry and symmetry to function and have an effect.

Reincarnation is so obviously a myth that it hardly bears mentioning. The light energy that forms our 3 dimensional form is a conjured up illusion and is not who or what we are. Our spirit is also a fabrication of this illusion. SPIRIT is nothing more than ENERGY that’s invisible to the naked eye, and is the product, the manifestation, of the luciferian Thought Process. If we shed our physical body and experience the ILLUSION of DEATH before our 3D illusory life experience becomes aware of our Original Wisdom State, we still shed the number/language systems that appeared to keep us locked in the Trance State, and unaware. Upon shedding the physical body we are immediately aware of our Original Eternal Wisdom State. The only draw back is that it was of no benefit to us as we experienced this present 3 dimensional life existence.

Nuff Said!


Stranger in a Strange Land said...

Hello Jedi The One,

Yes, agreed. Nuff Said.

I am not in agreement with your opinions, but would be a hypocrit if I didn't publish it. I am all for freedom of expression and have no problem peacefully co-existing with others of different views from my own.

Thanks so much for taking the time to visit and making such a lengthy and well written comment.

Kind regards,

Shellie Blum said...

Very interesting....

Stranger in a Strange Land said...

Hello Shellie and welcome to my Blog.

Kind regards,